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	<description>A blog by Rahul Srivastava and Matias Echanove on adventitious roots, urban forests and villages, natural cities, lost tribes, new nomads and everything in between and under...</description>
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		<title>Comment on Tokyo Future Slum by airoots</title>
		<link>http://www.airoots.org/2008/08/tokyo-future-slum/comment-page-1/#comment-3767</link>
		<dc:creator>airoots</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 12:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Leonardo,
Thanks for your passionate response. We respectfully disagree. And no..we dont live in the comfort of the first world at all. We are based in Mumbai and Goa and work extensively from Dharavi. Do check our website www.urbz.net for further details.
best</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Leonardo,<br />
Thanks for your passionate response. We respectfully disagree. And no..we dont live in the comfort of the first world at all. We are based in Mumbai and Goa and work extensively from Dharavi. Do check our website <a href="http://www.urbz.net" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.urbz.net?referer=');">http://www.urbz.net</a> for further details.<br />
best</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tokyo Future Slum by Leonardo</title>
		<link>http://www.airoots.org/2008/08/tokyo-future-slum/comment-page-1/#comment-3761</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 05:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m from Rio and I must say that you&#039;re totally wrong in this comparison. If Tokyo had a peculiar model of urban development, Rio has no model at all.

You forgot to say that we have whole families living in tiny boxes, sometimes 10 people or more. Plus, the shacks were built on occupied land, without permission from the city hall. No one has ownership of their land and to the eyes of the law they are just invaders. 

There&#039;s no infrastructure too. Most of the time, the sewage is discharged in natura in rivers close by. There is no transportation, as no kind of public transport can cross those narrow &quot;streets&quot;.

And you seem to completely ignore - or perhaps you&#039;re just too naive - the fact that our ONE THOUSAND shanty towns are controlled by gangs with heavy weapons hence my city is one of the most violent in the world.

You say &quot;don&#039;t destroy it, develop it&quot;, and I respectfully disagree by saying TEAR IT DOWN, BUILD DECENT HOUSES AND LET PEOPLE LIVE IN GOOD CONDITIONS (as you probably do, while typing this kind of nonsense in the comfort of a first world house...).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m from Rio and I must say that you&#8217;re totally wrong in this comparison. If Tokyo had a peculiar model of urban development, Rio has no model at all.</p>
<p>You forgot to say that we have whole families living in tiny boxes, sometimes 10 people or more. Plus, the shacks were built on occupied land, without permission from the city hall. No one has ownership of their land and to the eyes of the law they are just invaders. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s no infrastructure too. Most of the time, the sewage is discharged in natura in rivers close by. There is no transportation, as no kind of public transport can cross those narrow &#8220;streets&#8221;.</p>
<p>And you seem to completely ignore &#8211; or perhaps you&#8217;re just too naive &#8211; the fact that our ONE THOUSAND shanty towns are controlled by gangs with heavy weapons hence my city is one of the most violent in the world.</p>
<p>You say &#8220;don&#8217;t destroy it, develop it&#8221;, and I respectfully disagree by saying TEAR IT DOWN, BUILD DECENT HOUSES AND LET PEOPLE LIVE IN GOOD CONDITIONS (as you probably do, while typing this kind of nonsense in the comfort of a first world house&#8230;).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Mumbai’s Slums are Villages by Nitin Pande</title>
		<link>http://www.airoots.org/why-mumbai%e2%80%99s-slums-are-villages/comment-page-1/#comment-3749</link>
		<dc:creator>Nitin Pande</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 20:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A well done article ... 
I visited a immigration museum in New York that showed how people migrated in various parts of US.
We should somewhere visually document the  flow of people and cultures all over India. It would be an excellent source of learning about why we are what we are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A well done article &#8230;<br />
I visited a immigration museum in New York that showed how people migrated in various parts of US.<br />
We should somewhere visually document the  flow of people and cultures all over India. It would be an excellent source of learning about why we are what we are.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Prawn Nagar &#8211; Dharavi, Mumbai by 25BAR</title>
		<link>http://www.airoots.org/2009/12/prawn-district-dharavi/comment-page-1/#comment-3732</link>
		<dc:creator>25BAR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I knew it! My friends wouldn&#039;t believe me!
They&#039;re there, from Dharavi all the way down to Powai!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew it! My friends wouldn&#8217;t believe me!<br />
They&#8217;re there, from Dharavi all the way down to Powai!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Incremental Development I: Preserving Street Layout by Omid Rismanchian</title>
		<link>http://www.airoots.org/2009/01/incremental-development-i-preserving-street-layout/comment-page-1/#comment-3725</link>
		<dc:creator>Omid Rismanchian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 16:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi There, 

Can I ask how you made the maps and how did you illustrate the movement patter by dots? Did you put the dots one by one manually or did you use any software. TNX</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi There, </p>
<p>Can I ask how you made the maps and how did you illustrate the movement patter by dots? Did you put the dots one by one manually or did you use any software. TNX</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tales of Lucid Sleep by rahul</title>
		<link>http://www.airoots.org/2008/08/tales-of-lucid-sleep/comment-page-1/#comment-3722</link>
		<dc:creator>rahul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 02:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Cyndi,
Unfortunately the Tales of Lucid Sleep remain unpublished since the exigencies of our work - earning hard! could not allow us to complete the last mile and move ahead. But will happen soon! Thanks so much for your comments and encouragement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Cyndi,<br />
Unfortunately the Tales of Lucid Sleep remain unpublished since the exigencies of our work &#8211; earning hard! could not allow us to complete the last mile and move ahead. But will happen soon! Thanks so much for your comments and encouragement.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Worli Village Link by Mumbai&#8217;s liquid grounds &#124; airoots/eirut</title>
		<link>http://www.airoots.org/2009/07/the-worli-village-link/comment-page-1/#comment-3721</link>
		<dc:creator>Mumbai&#8217;s liquid grounds &#124; airoots/eirut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 21:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Tales of Lucid Sleep by cyndi powell</title>
		<link>http://www.airoots.org/2008/08/tales-of-lucid-sleep/comment-page-1/#comment-3720</link>
		<dc:creator>cyndi powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 21:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>best website!!!!!!! I would like to order  &quot;Tales of Lucid Sleep&quot;. I live in New York but Mumbai is my favorite city and India is like a second home. Please respond. You website blew my mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>best website!!!!!!! I would like to order  &#8220;Tales of Lucid Sleep&#8221;. I live in New York but Mumbai is my favorite city and India is like a second home. Please respond. You website blew my mind.</p>
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		<title>Comment on When Enmeshed Worlds Remain Parallel by Kunal</title>
		<link>http://www.airoots.org/2010/01/parallel-urban-worlds/comment-page-1/#comment-3709</link>
		<dc:creator>Kunal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 03:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post. Shall try get my hands on the book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post. Shall try get my hands on the book.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Aerial Roots: Geddes and Tagore by Airoots</title>
		<link>http://www.airoots.org/2010/01/contact/comment-page-1/#comment-3707</link>
		<dc:creator>Airoots</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 06:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Peter. Looking forward to a continued conversation on these two rebellious minds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Peter. Looking forward to a continued conversation on these two rebellious minds.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Haiti Viewed from Asia by Airoots</title>
		<link>http://www.airoots.org/2010/01/haiti-viewed-from-asia/comment-page-1/#comment-3706</link>
		<dc:creator>Airoots</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 05:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks so much for your response. Actually many would agree with you. If you compare figures of population - Tokyo is the most populated city in the world. However, the reason why it deals differently with density is in fact encoded in its historical evolution. When we look at land-use and spatial - demographic density as resources that can be managed from above - the gaze of the state/planner - we lose sight of the many ways in which people actually live and organize space. 

You can have crowded buses between Panjim and Vasco (in the Indian state of Goa with 1.6 million people) and have smooth jostling free journeys in a city of 14 million. 

The thing with Tokyo was that it allowed existing spatial uses (building on small agricultual plots, using old village organizational principles, presence of shrines in neighbourhoods) to evolve and modernize through a creative, more plastic and adaptive use of civic amenities. It used the winding tracks of the railways to create a system of transport that changed the way we think of circularity and linearity in urban spaces. 

This could well be one of the many reasons why the city may appear calm and relaxed. There are less jams for sure. It could be GPS or it could be the way the messy road networks allow for more route discoveries and navigation then the simplistic, 90 degree, grided road patterns of Manhattan - simply designed for jams! 

And yes of course - districts designated to be business and entertainment ones produce a different kind of experience then those that emerge from a more diffused notion of it - tempered by totally different philosophies of what makes for entertainment. Dense neighbourhoods, tiny bars and winding roads open up the imagination very differently than the designated enclaves of pleasure and entertainment on 42nd street - which many find jaded.

Cities are subjective entities. We all will perceive them differently. However - its vital to see how much diversity there is in the way uses of space express themselves in cities around the world. And they are of course meant to produce different experiences. Why should cities be experienced in the same way? Why not look at the special qualities?

Tokyo indeed share many qualities of other Asian cities. The problem is many Asian cities also experienced colonialism and denied their own logic. Tokyo, through the fate of history - escaped certain categories - native town v/s white town for one! What emerged were both similarities and differences with the larger Asian fabric for sure.

Lets continue with the discussion!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much for your response. Actually many would agree with you. If you compare figures of population &#8211; Tokyo is the most populated city in the world. However, the reason why it deals differently with density is in fact encoded in its historical evolution. When we look at land-use and spatial &#8211; demographic density as resources that can be managed from above &#8211; the gaze of the state/planner &#8211; we lose sight of the many ways in which people actually live and organize space. </p>
<p>You can have crowded buses between Panjim and Vasco (in the Indian state of Goa with 1.6 million people) and have smooth jostling free journeys in a city of 14 million. </p>
<p>The thing with Tokyo was that it allowed existing spatial uses (building on small agricultual plots, using old village organizational principles, presence of shrines in neighbourhoods) to evolve and modernize through a creative, more plastic and adaptive use of civic amenities. It used the winding tracks of the railways to create a system of transport that changed the way we think of circularity and linearity in urban spaces. </p>
<p>This could well be one of the many reasons why the city may appear calm and relaxed. There are less jams for sure. It could be GPS or it could be the way the messy road networks allow for more route discoveries and navigation then the simplistic, 90 degree, grided road patterns of Manhattan &#8211; simply designed for jams! </p>
<p>And yes of course &#8211; districts designated to be business and entertainment ones produce a different kind of experience then those that emerge from a more diffused notion of it &#8211; tempered by totally different philosophies of what makes for entertainment. Dense neighbourhoods, tiny bars and winding roads open up the imagination very differently than the designated enclaves of pleasure and entertainment on 42nd street &#8211; which many find jaded.</p>
<p>Cities are subjective entities. We all will perceive them differently. However &#8211; its vital to see how much diversity there is in the way uses of space express themselves in cities around the world. And they are of course meant to produce different experiences. Why should cities be experienced in the same way? Why not look at the special qualities?</p>
<p>Tokyo indeed share many qualities of other Asian cities. The problem is many Asian cities also experienced colonialism and denied their own logic. Tokyo, through the fate of history &#8211; escaped certain categories &#8211; native town v/s white town for one! What emerged were both similarities and differences with the larger Asian fabric for sure.</p>
<p>Lets continue with the discussion!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Haiti Viewed from Asia by prasoon</title>
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		<dc:creator>prasoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 17:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is not so much of a comment but an observation and somewhat a question. You have mentioned a few characteristics of Tokyo which I think a few other Asian cities could share and hence are not unique.

I just returned from Tokyo this morning, my first and a long awaited trip. My impression for Tokyo as one of the most populous urban regions in the world was more about density than anything else. I had read, seen pictures and heard about the rush in Tokyo, people pushers in Subways and crowded lanes.

Surprisingly, I failed to experience this density and the City seemed to be extremely calm and quiet. That does not mean it was slow or lacked energy. It seemed to be running on a number of super-efficient systems where both man and machine were performing to perfection. I never saw roads packed with cars, or trains where people couldnt board or human jams at intersections. Business/ entertainment districts such as Shinjuku or Roppongi were nowhere close to an experience in New York, Mumbai, Manila, Hong Kong or Jakarta during the office rush hours.

Many are intrigued by my unique observations about Tokyo. I wonder what would you have to say?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not so much of a comment but an observation and somewhat a question. You have mentioned a few characteristics of Tokyo which I think a few other Asian cities could share and hence are not unique.</p>
<p>I just returned from Tokyo this morning, my first and a long awaited trip. My impression for Tokyo as one of the most populous urban regions in the world was more about density than anything else. I had read, seen pictures and heard about the rush in Tokyo, people pushers in Subways and crowded lanes.</p>
<p>Surprisingly, I failed to experience this density and the City seemed to be extremely calm and quiet. That does not mean it was slow or lacked energy. It seemed to be running on a number of super-efficient systems where both man and machine were performing to perfection. I never saw roads packed with cars, or trains where people couldnt board or human jams at intersections. Business/ entertainment districts such as Shinjuku or Roppongi were nowhere close to an experience in New York, Mumbai, Manila, Hong Kong or Jakarta during the office rush hours.</p>
<p>Many are intrigued by my unique observations about Tokyo. I wonder what would you have to say?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The S&#8230; Word by Sytse de Maat</title>
		<link>http://www.airoots.org/2008/10/the-s-word/comment-page-1/#comment-3702</link>
		<dc:creator>Sytse de Maat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 11:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For professional reasons I read &quot;Planet of Slums&quot;, not for joy. I agree with the above criticism. In addition I would like to share that it came to me that Davis did point out an important issue. The phenomenon of swelling cities and with it the explosive growth of slum, only took a few decades to come to its present state. It immediately raised a question to me: it might only take a few decades to bring things about and with all you know about it, mr. Davis, what strategy would you suggest for these coming few decades? Although Davis&#039; book is packed with statements, he cunningly avoids suggesting any strategy. 

Planet of Slums takes an easy position. Too easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For professional reasons I read &#8220;Planet of Slums&#8221;, not for joy. I agree with the above criticism. In addition I would like to share that it came to me that Davis did point out an important issue. The phenomenon of swelling cities and with it the explosive growth of slum, only took a few decades to come to its present state. It immediately raised a question to me: it might only take a few decades to bring things about and with all you know about it, mr. Davis, what strategy would you suggest for these coming few decades? Although Davis&#8217; book is packed with statements, he cunningly avoids suggesting any strategy. </p>
<p>Planet of Slums takes an easy position. Too easy.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Prawn Nagar &#8211; Dharavi, Mumbai by Aatif</title>
		<link>http://www.airoots.org/2009/12/prawn-district-dharavi/comment-page-1/#comment-3699</link>
		<dc:creator>Aatif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 16:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha hilarious article. Dharavi had crossed my mind when i was watching District 9 too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha hilarious article. Dharavi had crossed my mind when i was watching District 9 too.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Aerial Roots: Geddes and Tagore by Peter Sigrist</title>
		<link>http://www.airoots.org/2010/01/contact/comment-page-1/#comment-3696</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Sigrist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 22:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for posting this! I hadn&#039;t heard of this book, but greatly admire both figures. I&#039;ll look forward to reading this, and also your review.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for posting this! I hadn&#8217;t heard of this book, but greatly admire both figures. I&#8217;ll look forward to reading this, and also your review.</p>
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